Defending Paleo (But Not All of It)

It seems to me that people are leaving the word “paleo” behind.

If you don’t realize “paleo” is a 4-letter-word in some circles, here’s where it’s time to wake up. It’s not that these people are changing the way they eat at all, but rather disassociating themselves with the movement.

For example, when you get post like this one from Cheeseslave, a popular blogger who eats a whole food diet, you wonder about whether the movement the word is sustainable for the long term.  Clearly the movement is sustainable, it’s an evolving diet whose definition and interpretation is different today than the day the “founding fathers” wrote their books, and the darn thing’s been around for eons.

Is this paleo?

But the word. The classification of it being a finite definition, a box everything fits into, naturally drives heated discussions on what is or isn’t paleo. The term paleo, and people associated with it, often times are viewed negatively.

Even the biggest paleo conference in existence calls themselves ancestral health. You have paleo allied individuals starting up their own brands. I get why they’re doing that. Because a large part of the real food eating population sees us as zealots, extreme cultists who take things too far. That’s not because of our over arching principals, it’s because of a specific subset of people behaving that way.

We hear all the time, “I’m not really paleo. I’m more primal like Mark Sisson” or from newcomers to our blog or Facebook, “I’m new to Paleo but have been grain, dairy and refined sugar-free for 3 years, following GAPS, WAPF and SCD.”

Well, I mean, I guess if you believe what you read then paleo people are the ones posting stuff like this all over r/paleo (Reddit Paleo) and PaleoHacks. It comes across, not surprisingly, that if you haven’t been hard-core like those people, you’re not granted permission to use the paleo label.

No wonder people are finding new things to call themselves!

The loudest (note I’m not saying most popular or majority of) members of our movement tend to be self-righteous, pompous, and were seemingly birthed into the world of Paleo eating liver and sweet potatoes from day one, having never transitioned themselves or remembering what their old lifestyle and diet was like.

Paleo people cross-fit, they don’t have lingering fat and skin from being metabolically broken for a lifetime, struggle with their health, and certainly they are unwilling to make accommodations for the struggles you face as a family.

We’ve seen this taking shape for a while within the community, but now it’s perceived outside of it as well. People are noticing, paleo people have a stereotype. If that’s all paleo people are, they represent about 2% of the population and cannot relate to the majority of America who are overweight and obese.

So guess what happens to those families that take a look at the science of Paleo? They read bestselling books like Wheat Belly and Paleo Solution, and they’re excited to change their health. And then they’re told that if they succumb to eating a “grain-free cookie” (because even though the term Paleo helps people find what they’re looking for in a Google search bar, us bloggers are hunted down if we use the term) they’re having sex with their pants on. Well, never mind then, I’ll just keep packing this Candy Corn Oreo in my kids’ lunch boxes then.

How are we expecting the world to get on board?

We’ve gotten to an embarrassing level of the movement when people are arguing about whether or not ground beef is too processed and crosses the line into “not paleo”. Quite a few people are getting turned off by the kind of judgmental attitude that seems prevalent in the community.

Is attacking our own really helping all the people who need to find even just the basic principles? We’ve got paleo people trying to kick people out of the movement, stripping them of “being paleo”. Some are horrified at the world around them. That very world, I mind you, we’re hoping to reach out and help.

Many claim to be models of perfection to the rest of us, which it not only blatantly untrue – but it can certainly wear down the resolve of the exact people they wish to inspire. You’ll notice, true leaders never claim to be perfect but rather walk with you on a path to finding the ideal.

Still the Fattest People in Paleo!

Then of course there’s the inevitable drama. Who’d want to hang out with a bunch of people that call each other (and us) names and start “wars” and secret blogs?

We think this kind of obsessiveness from within our community misses the point of trying to be healthy.

For us, it’s no secret that we’ve tried to ally ourselves with gluten-free bloggers as a matter of broadening the paleo base. In addition, we’ve really enjoyed our interactions with the Weston A. Price groups and enjoy their ideas as well. And now that Stacy’s been doing the auto-immune protocol, we’ve been involved with those groups more and more.

Because that’s what a movement is, spreading the word in a positive and uplifting manner to whomever will listen, with whatever part of the message they want to hear.

However, in response to one of the many idiotic things we read about ourselves (specifically, that our book is gluten-free, not paleo), Stacy shouted, “Maybe we ought to change the name of the blog! If we’re not paleo, how does DinosaurFamily.com sound?”

Coming soon: DinosaurFamily.com! (NOT)

Why, however, we’ll always be the Paleo Parents.

We can’t let a small percentage of our population drag us down. We can’t let that change us. After all, it was Robb Wolf and The Paleo Solution that got us here. That’s where we got the motivation to lose 210 pounds, to change the health of our kids, start a blog, to change everything about how we live our lives.

There’s another segment of “paleo people” – it’s the very community that has embraced this blog and accepted our point of view. It’s a point of view that some may negatively define as grain-free and fat, where others see us as a unique example of paleo for the modern American.

It’s not just us. Wonderful, powerful, supportive, empathetic paleo people exist – I know they do, because I’m friends with them. Without the help of Cave Girl Eats, BalancedBites and Primal Palate as well as our paleo-centric-publisher, we would not have a popular book. Without Free the Animal, no one would know our story. Without Civilized Caveman, Robb Wolf, Chowstalker, Nom Nom Paleo, Angelo, and countless other supportive friends in the community, you wouldn’t know us.

It’s because of the quality readers and newcomers we do get, who tell us that because of us they don’t feel intimidated or overwhelmed, that they feel inspired, like they can actually change their health that we have tolerated the hypocrisy and insanity we see and read within the community for as long as we have.

Without paleo we couldn’t meet awesome people!

Or discover that we could be fit, too!

Or lose 200lbs and do this!

But enough is enough of this high school Mean Girls behavior.

This in-fighting and nit-picking isn’t going to get us anywhere. We need all of you, our friends and readers, to help perpetuate a positive message to help spread the word and success of life-after-paleo. Because after all, for all the trouble people seem to have with the term, it’s just a word representing a movement.

We get to shape the movement, and we get to take back the word. It’s our word. We own it, for all it’s faults. We can take it back!

Don’t let paleo become a 4-letter-word. Don’t walk away from it (the movement or the word) because you let some testerone-hopped-up-mean-spirited-judgemental-so-and-so make you feel bad about that thing you did that wasn’t Paleo Perfectionist compliant.

Stand up to the judgey-McJudgertons! Show the rest of the world that the majority of us aren’t stuck-up jerks, that the lifestyle is about – above all else – finding health & happiness.

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  • Guest

    I have definitely stepped away from the

  • Kelley Ahearn

    Good job!!

  • I love this so hard.

    I’ve been Paleo for a while now and while my boyfriend isn’t, he is supportive of my choices. One thing he always comments on, however, is the nastiness and elitist attitude he sees among the community that almost makes it look like a cult. As in, you either get it or you’re wrong and there is no in between. I’m an avid believer of people making the choices that are right for themselves. If they choose Paleo, great. If they don’t, great. Who the hell am I to tell them that they’re wrong?

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  • Jada

    that was awesome. 🙂 I stopped grains and dairy at the beginning of the year (fell off during a major life change, getting back on track now) because it felt good for my body. Found the paleo stuff in dribs and drabs looking for good food to eat. I hate using the term because of the immediate look of “ugh, fucking hipsters” I tend to get. And as a bigger girl who will never be size 8, and who’s busy and relatively poor and unable to eat the “perfect” foods, a lot of the resources can be alienating. I just want to eat better, feel better and show my kids how to be better. I don’t want a bunch if BS attached. So yay. thanks for this. 🙂

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  • Beth

    Who the eff cares what it is called if you, me, or anyone else is taking steps to improve health. Period. Also, I don’t care what ANYONE says….part of having kids is having the “fun food factor”….it’s part of childhood. We do the best we can to make fun food not completely poisonous, but I refuse to raise my kids without “better” versions of cookies or pancakes, balanced with generally available, more often than not, healthful choices.

    • AheadofStraight

      Amen! There is no way I can get my kids on board with making better choices if they can’t ever have “treats” again, when they are bombarded by commercials every day and see what their friends eat every day. I need practical and realistic, not evangelical.

    • Kris

      I have noticed a rather pointed dichotomy in the “paleosphere.” On the one hand you have the childless (or those with children who don’t actually eat / make their own food choices yet) and on the other you have people with kids … who have their own opinions about what to eat and who face peer pressure from classmates and friends. I am SO GLAD that Paleo Parents and The Paleo Mom among others provide us with fun opportunities to feed our kids well and still feed their spirits a bit, too. Every so often one of the kids will ask me to read the first section of ELAD. I assume something at school got them down on the food front and I am glad to be able to offer them communion with other kids even if just via a book.

  • Thank you for this post! I needed to read this today, I’ve been a little discouraged by the seeming bludgeoning attitude of some fellow paleo eaters. I think there are many shades of Paleo, and I think as unique individuals we can decide what that means for us, while still being a part of a larger community that shares a common philosophy and passion for a way of life and eating. So what if I make an energy bar and call it Paleo? I know my caveman aunts and uncles didn’t have a food processor, but I don’t think we have to deny a more modern sense of culinary artistry just because we’re choosing to use only nature’s bounty.

  • Amen! Perfectionist paleo will never be able to go beyond a very, very small subset and will never be able to reach the people that need it most. If a paleo cookie is what you need to avoid the foods that cause inflammation and poor health, then go for it! It’s so disheartening to see the turn things have taken this year. I’ve always said I try to eat “practical paleo”, making it work with my family’s budget and our lives, but I think maybe I’ll change it to “positively paleo” – embracing paleo in all of it’s individual, health-promoting forms.

  • The deeper I get into Paleo, the more I am finding that Paleo people are often really judgmental jerks, like “Oh you don’t eat raw liver? You ate a grain free cookie one time? Well sorry you’re a big fat failure.” I’m so over it. Thank you for this post and for keeping it real. <3

  • Heather Vanek

    A.Mazing! So well said! I’m currently building a Paleo (yeah, I said it) blog and as soon as it’s launched I am linking to this article. FABULOUS!

  • Ciavyn

    I love your posts. I do struggle with advocacy of so many sweet treats, as they are often abused. But you hit the nail on the head: it is about baby steps. Helping people get healthier – not get perfect. None of us are. Reaching out, helping others find health and acceptance…that should be our goal.

  • Lisa

    That needed to be said. Thank you.

    Our family is definitely Paleo – we eat paleo, (no grains, legumes, dairy, processed food), we do not eat perfect paleo 100%, but we are close, we don’t crossfit, we do move, sleep and play and we are so so so so much better for this lifestyle.
    I as well, have come across people who are paleo in behaviour yet say they don’t want use “that word” (for whatever reason) – their loss!!!
    If all I only found (two years ago) all those confusing “scientists” debating the micro nutrients of a potato vs a sweet potato, or whether their diet was ancestral or primal, our family would have never learned to adopt these awesome lifestyle changes.
    That is why I believe in the community minded paleo message and ALL it has to offer.

  • Jan’s Sushi Bar

    Wonderful post. This is why I’m glad I was a food blogger before going paleo – and why I’ve distanced myself from the label from the very beginning. It gets even worse for those of us, especially women, who come into this way of eating in our middle/older years – whatever you you define a paleo diet or lifestyle, with a few exceptions (i.e. DeVany, Sisson) it seems to be almost entirely the province young people – there’s so little out there for how to “make it work” when you’re no longer a woman of child-bearing age.

    Ah, well, it gives me something to write about, and an audience to cultivate. The response has been VERY encouraging.

    • I have also given up on calling myself that. I got tired of arguing about it/trying to even figure it out myself. Like this article says, 80/20 baby (or whatever form of that works for you).

  • scapegoated

    Wow, I guess there really are bullies in every playground. I’m glad I got into the movement via The Primal Blueprint/Mark Sisson, because I think he is one of the less restrictive and exclusive of the earlier proponents. Keep doing what you’re doing, guys. We need sane and reasonable voices like yours, especially in the light of all this nonsense.

  • Grace

    Woo hoo! I agree. My name is Grace, and I ordered Dominos pizza last night.

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    • We had a pizza last week, lol! More of a ‘we are really tired and it sounded good’ We both paid for it… a bit constipated for a few days…LOL

  • Aimee

    YES! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love you, this blog, and this post for articulating how I feel about my paleo journey and how I realistically apply the principles of paleo eating to my lifestyle.

  • AheadofStraight

    This is exactly why you guys are my favorite bloggers.

  • Danielle C

    AMEN!! I am a health and nutrition counselor, and I see this all the time. “What? Paleo? I don’t want to do CrossFit!” It’s very interesting – I do and will continue to send people to your site. Thank you!

  • Linda Ringer

    Great post and points

  • Oh man, you guys are so rad. I am not a parent but I subscribe to your blog because of great posts like this one. I really love that your blog speaks to the *process* of paleo, rather than just showing us the end goal. I’m going to assume that most readers, like me, are currently in the process as well, and that point of connection is what makes this so powerful.

  • Darlene

    Thank you for saying it. I am so tired of people judging me when I eat this or that or worse yet-think I am judging them! Sorry no time. I found Mark Sisson first and have always believed the 80/20 rule-when I mess up-I suffer for it and I truly want my family and friends to know this is the way to go. We need to take charge of our health and lead people by example-not by judging. I have always loved you guys! Keep up the great work!

  • mary b

    Kudos for saying what needed to be said! I rarely tell people I am paleo for the very reasons you describe! I tend to say I embrace the primal lifestyle. Don’t need anyone giving me the hairy eyeball because I happen to grab an iced coffee and it had cream in it!! Sad that we have to step so gingerly. I guess the hard core don’t want anyone crashing their elite party! LOL!
    I think we need to be more positive as a group to be able to reach out
    to others to get them to see why eating this way is healthy. We have made great strides in our house by changing our way of eating. I find that if I let my children make some of their own choices it helps them in the long run.
    I for one appreciate the Eat Like a Dinosaur book since it has some healthier versions of things my children like, such as the Pumpkin pucks (made yesterday with freshly roasted pumpkin from our garden!).
    Thanks for all you and your family do for those of us who may not be PaleoPerfect!

  • This was fantastic. Thank you.

  • Dana

    Wow. Thank you again for standing on the front lines and telling it like it is! Y’all are great, and I’m so sorry you’re taking heat like this. I have been blissfully unaware of all of this vitriol (as I primarily frequent blogs of those in your happy list of friends). I totally agree that we should be focused on ENCOURAGING others to make healthier choices wherever they can, rather than making ourselves judge and jury over everyone’s mouths! Keep up the good work-you ARE an encouragement to me and so many others! Peace.

  • I have started referring to myself as primal as well. Paleo is becoming a dirty word, which is too bad. I agree with SO much of this. But, I do have to say this. Mark Sisson, Rob Wolf, and Loren Cordain really don’t advocate eating sugary snacks. PLEASE don’t think I’m coming from a place of judgment. I love the recipes you post. However, it seems funny that there is a movement in paleo to say all grains are horrible- most paleo bloggers would never put them in a recipe- but sugar is all over the place. Now, when you start talking about paleo for weight loss, it’s simply not going to happen with chocolate chip pancakes and coconut ice cream (I know this because I am not where I want to be yet- I do love my grain free brownies myself). I guess what I’m trying to say is, I don’t think it’s fair to say that the frustration expressed by many xfit trainers who are trying to help people lose weight, and find that they think they’re going to get skinny eating cookies that are probably more caloric-laden and just as insulin spiking as conventional cookies. I don’t think a lot of those people are trying to judge, I think they’re trying to educate.

    Also- I think a line has to be drawn somewhere. Everyone draws it differently. That should be OK. What hapens though, when people start adding rice to recipes and calling that paleo? Maybe that will be their line? Heck, the people complaining about cheeseslave eating ancestral grain are drawing the line somewhere too. we’re all drawing it somewhere. That is why I loved most of the message of this article, and as far as where I draw the line myself, I’m a lot closer to you. I just think all sides of the issue should be looked at.

    A while back, Jason Seib posted something on facebook about not using food as love for kids. As I recall, you reposted it with a comment about how you hoped he did something or other with his own kids- that was you commenting on where he draws the line. I stayed out of the fray on that one, but you were in a way expressing judgement about where he draws the line. We all do it. I’m in a way doing it now- and I am probably less “paleo compliant” than you guys!. I’m also trying to point out though, that everyone thinks their way is the way of moderation.

    I don’t pretend to know where the problem ends- I think there are so many different definitions that it is confusing to newbies. I myself have felt many of the frustrations you list and just say primal now. With that in mind, I have a ton of respect that you’re continuing to call yourself the paleo parents. Not such an easy title anymore. But I also think we need to be strong and just not care what everyone else says.

    In all honesty, I feel like I hear a lot more about people who complain about judgementalness in the paleo community than what I perceive as actual judgementalness- and I am NOT a crossfitter, nor do I have a perfect body. I too have auto-immune issues and frankly don’t see the harm in some honey here and there- BUT- I do understand the frustration that many trainers seem to be having and I guess I don’t take it personally or see it as mean girls. My journey is not caring how skinny I am by society’s standards, but I am also not going to take it personally that people are saying “you will never get skinny eating insulin spiking sugar” because they are right.

    You both have helped and will continue to help a lot of people. Your auto immune stuff has definitely helped me. I just see so much about ‘judgementalness’ in paleo I think it is being made a bigger problem than it is and that is a huge bummer. I think 99 percent of the problem is sugary snacks. But Lord do I love them- and as long as I do I will continue to troll awesome websites like against all grain, you guys, and PaleOMG. I also know though that in a way there needs to be some sort of definition of paleo. I think the problem is that nobody (myself included) really knows what it means. Wolf/Sisson/Cordian say one thing, food bloggers say another, and the nutritionists say something, and the crossfitters say something else. I am totally comfortable where I am, sweets and all, but until we figure out, together, a way to define it as something we don’t agree on, newbies are going to be a bit lost.

    • Not the fattest people in paleo, the phattest. And again, I am only saying that I wish there was a simple solution. Huge fan of both of yours, I guess I just see the other side of the issue as well.

  • Art

    Ugh! And I thought only vegans had the “holier-than-thou” attitude (and I should know, I used to be one!) But you know what? What you describe exists in every food circle. Raw food vegans (I was there, too), Paleo, vegans, fruitarians.. everybody thinks THEIR way is the best way, and some are not shy about getting in your face about it. Me? As a Christian, I tend to shy away from the “Paleo” label, because I believe in creationism and not the whole evolutionary model. I just call what I do “low-carb”.. and people accept that (oh, not all of them necessarily like it, but they accept it.. eventually, anyway). My personal creed – take what’s good, throw away the rest. Starting Whole30 today, Day 1, because I need a reset, physical and mental. Tried to do it a few months ago, but didn’t want to give up butter and all forms of sweeteners. Realized my way’s not going to work, so this time I’m doing it THEIR way. And this time I’m going to succeed.

    • I was vegan too. The hardliners are even more hardcore than most vegans. I think a problem is that people assume you’re doing paleo to be skinny- some of us are doing to repair horrible health and that is the last thing we have time to worry about. So in a way I get where they’re coming from, but I have pretty much given up on the paleo label and go under the more ‘accepting’ term primal.

  • Halleluja! Thanks for that, this is awesome! Oh, those paleo-perfectionists? I call them paleonazi’s 😉 .

  • I am guilty of this… I have a friend who was venturing back into Primal after a bout of uncontrollable binging. The whole time she was binging, she was trying to do a Whole30 and failing every day, making excuses about how this family thing got in the way, or she was just too tired to cook, or she can’t bring leftovers for lunch b/c her fiance eats them before she can pack them up for herself… etc. So, when she said she was going to do Primal again, but had to wait 4 days so she could finish off her hot chocolate packets, I saw another excuse. I called her out on it and she called me a Primal Nazi… Yeah, probably I was, but she kept saying “I’m going to do this, but… ” every time I talked to her. Seemed to me like another excuse. I have since toned it down and don’t push the lifestyle anymore because all it did was create anxiety for me when people would ignore me. I recognized that I was one of “those” that you speak of and have since stepped back. Let people lead their own lives, put the information out there, but don’t push it on them. When they reach a point of desperation (like I did) they’ll realize they CAN do it (for me it was giving up pasta – as a runner, pasta was a staple for me), and will realize just how easy it can be, and how amazing they will feel.

    • Suzanne H

      Doing a Whole30 may not be the best plan for someone who has an eating disorder or disordered eating. I did a Whole30 and spent the next several months struggling with binge eating and then using the Whole30 as a way to restrict. I had to allow myself to eat whatever I wanted for the binging to stop. For some of us who’ve dealt with something like binge eating, being ultra strict doesn’t work.

      • Suzanne, the exact thing happened to me this summer when I tried doing Whole30. I had stopped binging for a few months, and the moment I tried my first Whole30 it became binge central again. I’m still feeling the repurcussions of that as I’m back into the dieting mentality and “last supper” eating because I kept planning on trying Whole30 again. I’m going to let go the idea of Whole30 now, for me the binging is more detrimental to my health.

        • Suzanne H

          Kate, I’m so sorry you’re dealing with the binging. I think it’s definitely a wise decision for you to forgo the Whole30. I felt good during my Whole30, but I’m not planning on doing one again because I don’t want to trigger the binging again. I agree that binging is more detrimental to health, it’s far too damaging mentally, emotionally, and physically. Hang in there and I hope you find some peace soon.

    • Amanda

      Hello. I know someone with and eating disorder and she said only time she ever really succeeded with any kind of diet was when she attended over eaters anonymous. I had no idea something like that existed but it deals with the emotional part of eating. Sometimes people are afraid to loose the weight because of some other issues. Over eaters anonymous might be a good option for your friend.

    • Amanda

      Hello. I know someone with and eating disorder and she said only time she ever really succeeded with any kind of diet was when she attended over eaters anonymous. I had no idea something like that existed but it deals with the emotional part of eating. Sometimes people are afraid to loose the weight because of some other issues. Over eaters anonymous might be a good option for your friend.

  • I couldn’t believe that Whole 9 comment. How rude and ridiculous. And then to turn it around and ask what it says about those of us who were offended by the remark. It says we don’t like to see so-called ambassadors of our lifestyle be jerks to the public. But I guess elitism sells. The same thing happened over on Balanced Bite’s wall on FB, where Diane took a picture of someone’s purchase at a grocery store. If paleo eating ever wants to be a popular movement, it needs to lay off the judgment.

    • Suzanne H

      What comment was this (Whole9)? I must have missed that.

      • Stacey linked to it above – it was a comment on their FB feed from September 9th saying something to the effect of “watching what people put in their coffee at starbucks is horrifying.”

    • RE: “The same thing happened over on Balanced Bite’s wall on FB, where Diane took a picture of someone’s purchase at a grocery store.”

      For the record, I was commenting on the comparison in brightly colored liquids sold in stores and how shockingly similar the cleaning products looked to the juices/sports drinks all lined up on the conveyor belt. It was a criticism of the items, not of the person. I am continually appalled by the way that food manufacturers market and sell their products. I did find it interesting, in this case- and after the fact (after I looked at the photo, which I did NOT take for this reason), that the person who bought them was in scrubs. Again, this isn’t an attack on the person, but that, for whatever reason, our health care systems continue to either train or encourage the support of these kinds of products.

      I make it a point to remember where I came from, and how I used to eat/drink everything that I teach people not to eat/drink today. We all learn things in time, if we want to/are open to it. It’s not effective to ridicule people for their choices and expect that to result in some positive change. It’s more important to make statements and bring-to-light how ridiculous the food industry is in marketing their products as health-promoting, then also hope to catch the eye of someone interested in the truth to educate them in that moment.

      We can’t help people if we either never say anything, nor if we push them away with judgment. It’s a very difficult balance to maintain, so understanding that it’s almost impossible not to step on toes here or there (people are VERY sensitive about and defensive about their food choices) when attempting to educate would be helpful.

      • Monique M.

        Diane, a little constructive criticism: regardless of your intent, your tone can come across as fitting the stereotype that Stacy mentions. I’ve heard that complaint about your blog/Facebook from more than one person. Just letting you know since it’s probably not how you want to come across.

      • Monique M.

        Diane, a little constructive criticism: regardless of your intent, your tone can come across as fitting the stereotype that Stacy mentions. I’ve heard that complaint about your blog/Facebook from more than one person. Just letting you know since it’s probably not how you want to come across.

  • I agree completely! I know some many people who turn them selves off when I say I am paleo. They are so terrified that I am some sort of a crazy food fanatic that thinks anything that is not meat is bad. Unfortuneately paleoish gapsey grain free is not a diet, nor is it easy to say so I just say paleo out of convinience.

  • Maria

    Thank you beautiful family!!!

  • Melissa

    I find it quite funny that you lump Paleo Drama in with those who call you names, since I created it in response to prominent bloggers calling me a b***** and a c*** and the total apathy that resulted from paleo “leaders”. Even before I started that blog, his blog was a forum to slander my personal life. I started withdrawing because I felt like…if I write about paleo and this is the kind of hatred that is acceptable, I don’t want to participate anymore. Is it acceptable to call women that you disagree with fat? A c***? A slut? Sexually harass her with explicit comments?

    In paleo it seems to be. It’s funny because it all started when I started criticizing a pseudoscientific ultra-strict version of “paleo” that called even sweet potatoes in winter unsafe.

    • Melissa I’ve always respected you and your work. What I’m saying is that the fact that we HAVE paleo drama and are dedicating time and energy to it is detracting from helping reach the people who just want some simple facts about eating real food. That’s not to say I wouldn’t be frustrated and livid were it happening to me (as evidenced by this post clearly I am) but just that if we can try to focus our energy on staying positive and ignoring the negativity – it’ll elevate the whole movement.

    • Just to be perfectly clear, I am not OK with name calling of any kind. I sometimes throw “bad” words around myself, but when pointed at a person as an intentional insult then a line has obviously been crossed.

      My point was more about why in the world we find ourselves in a situation where this sort of thing even exists, let alone the method in which it’s defended.

  • I’ve often contemplated starting a blog to document my gradual transition to Paleo and my struggle to get my health concerns figured out, but have balked at the idea of being faced with the unsupportive, stereotypical people you reference here. I’m a delicate little flower 🙂

  • Manda

    OH MY GOSH! I loved it! TOTALLY worth the wait. I have felt this way for ages! Of course I am used to not fitting in so i kinda just shrug and move on, but I get so irritated at how the mean and loud haters of the verse are scaring away the sweet newbies who really just want to be healthy. I am a human, and I am happy to make mistakes… it is part of the human experience, I choose not to let it get me down, and not to allow the others to bring me down. I am proud to have found Paleo… I am proud to have learned all I have and had the changes that have happened in my life… and I am so freaking grateful to have you guys in my sphere of love! <3 <3 THANK YOU for what you do… we love you <3

  • Megan

    My daughter had been having health issues so we decided to give this “paleo thing” a try. We have had wonderful results and her health has continued to improve. However, I have several of those eliteset paleo friends. They would make me feel bad about letting her have certain treats or try to dissuade me from use of certain products all together. I have only been doing this for a few months but try my very best. I have three kids and my daughter who is in first grade is the on with the health problems. So while I know that those enjoy life chocolate brownie bars are not paleo they are gluten and dairy free. I gave them to my daughters teacher so if a child unexpectedly brings in cupcakes for a birthday my daughter could have a treat. If I know the birthday is coming I try to make my own special treat but thats not always realistic. There is something to be said for a small child feeling like they fit in. The comments that some of my “friends” made were ridiculous! She is six and has emergency special treat bars for birthdays, give me a break. It is situations like this that have made me feel alienated form this community. Now when she goes places I explain her diet excluding the word Pale form the conversation, because I don’t want to hear it. So thank you for your book , blog, and advice. It has truly helped my family so much. I hope you continue to succeed and spread the word and hopefully people will one day realize this is for everybody 🙂

  • J. Stanton

    Any successful movement will accumulate its share of zealots.

    Any successful movement will also accumulate its share of gadflies and hangers-on who feel it’s “too dogmatic” or “too restricting” — but who can’t bring themselves to leave the party, because they know it’s where the action is.

    It’s all part of the price of success. I recommend ignoring both of them and continuing to pursue your own health and happiness.

    JS – gnolls.org, and still paleo

  • I fully believe in the basic paleo principles, but for practical application, I also refer to ancient customs. Thanks God not everything is forgotten in this part of Europe (Central Europe, that is). Just few days ago, I received an amazing book about rather ancient (going back to and beyond the Thirty Years War) culinary customs in Bohemia – I wish you could read it! I am lucky enough to remember when my parents used only lard and olive oil as fats. Jan, Slovakia

  • Sarah

    first of all, you guys are AMAZING role models and I’m so glad you’re sticking it out and claiming your right to be in the paleo community! at the same time, I do struggle with if/when to use the term “paleo” about myself. I focus on describing to people what I do and do not eat, generally with the brief clarification “because x, y, and z make me sick.”

    for me, the term “ancestral health” just fits a lot better with my non-dogmatic feelings about the matter. I know what I need to eat to feel base-line healthy and I believe everyone should eat a diet they’re evolutionarily suited to, but claiming the term “paleo” doesn’t have much emotional or practical significance for me personally. I want a term that includes role models such as Sandor Katz as well as the Paleo Parents! my partner of 5 years is a whole-foods-eating vegetarian, and I’m pretty sure the criticism I’d get for supporting her decision would be a lot worse than the criticism for my grain-free cookies! (she gets animal fat and protein from pastured eggs and raw dairy, but I also cook soaked legumes, quinoa, etc. for her. we’re generally a gluten-free household, but sometimes she buys sourdough bread and I’m not sure that’s a problem. I even made some cupcakes the other day for a friend’s event that used (gasp) sorghum flour and cane sugar.)

    I’ve also been thinking a lot about the lack of diversity (race, sexuality, class, etc.) in the Paleo world, and wondering if at least a small part of the problem is the terminology itself. “evolution” and “human nature” have been used in so many oppressive ways in the past–comparing people of color to animals or calling them “primitive”, or arguments about how feminism and homosexuality aren’t “natural.”

    • Kit

      Seconding the lack of diversity. It frustrates me a great deal that everyone seems to have enough money to buy grass fed meat and eggs from free-range chickens and a whole cow (plus the extra freezer to keep it in), enough time to go for hour long walks every day, and the ability and time to cook healthy food three times daily.

      That’s not the reality I live in. I’m in school full time, and looking for a job, and thus don’t have a lot of extra money to spend on the food I’d like to buy, or the time to spend going for hour long walks every day. I don’t have space for a garden and I don’t live in a climate where farmer’s markets sell produce year round. Plus I’m one of those people who, no matter how much I want to be able to, just can’t tolerate certain tastes and textures of food, and feel quilty every time one of the elitist paleo people “scolds” the rest of us for not including X, Y, or Z in our diet.

      Your comment about the lack of diversity in terms of sexuality is interesting too, because I have yet to see anyone transgender (like me) represented in the community and/or hear anything about how best to tailor a diet for someone who is going through puberty at a not-typical time in their life.

  • Thank you thank you thank you!

    I’m pretty sure there are judgmental people everywhere. There were quite a few when I did Weight Watchers, but I chalked that up to hunger. Lately, after purchasing many paleo books, I began to see good bits of info wrapped up in a very mean attitude. I began to feel like I wasn’t “good enough” for paleo. I couldn’t complete a Whole30 detox, there was no way I could be as fit or toned as the people whose blogs/books I was reading, and there are hobbies I love that most paleo adherents would turn their noses up. Paleo became less of a way to find health and more of just another way I would never measure up.

    There are a few blogs that give me hope. This one is on the top of the list, and I feel 100% times better whenever I read a post here. You guys convinced me to keep at it and I’ll figure out my best way to feeling healthy, even if that does mean having a paleo cookie every once in awhile.

  • Amy

    I’m pretty sure all of these people who are ripping you guys apart for having “SAD substitutions” have never had picky children that they’ve had to feed, transition over to a healthier, grain-free lifestyle, and try to let not feel deprived (and argue incessantly with you) because they can’t have everything little Susie across the street can. Raising children is hard, and it’s not about absolute perfection. It’s about making the best choices you can, not going insane, and trying not to give your children major issues in the process. I give you guys major kudos. ELAD is full of great, family-friendly dishes the whole family can enjoy. They are chock-full of veggies, proteins, and fats, and they taste good. So many paleo cookbooks I see are so obviously geared toward adults and their palettes. There’s nothing at all wrong with that, but it’s so nice to see a real family-friendly whole food cookbook with stuff kids will love ( and not just treats). So what if there are are cupcake and ice cream recipes for OCCASIONAL treats in there. If you don’t like them, don’t make them. It’s that simple.

  • Nikki

    Thank you for always, always, always, putting health, happiness, and helpfulness at the forefront of all you do. There are many who would benefit from embracing your zest and verve for life instead of judging others.

  • Tammy – The Healthy GF Life

    I can’t tell you how much I loved this post!!! I have uttered these same words so many times. When I first started paleo I was excited by the enthusiasm and support in the community, but it didn’t take long to feel that support turn to competition and judgement (of course not all in the community are like that, many are AMAZING). I am not a small girl, and probably never will be, but I work my butt off to be where I am and I feel better than I have in 15+ years! So am I less paleo because I don’t have an ideal body? I guess I’m not paleo because I make grain free, sugar free cupcakes for my kids on their birthdays? I think my youngest says it best, “Whateves!” I have a greater interest in helping the millions of Americans who are eating a SAD diet, not spending my time in a pissing match with the Paleo-Vegans (the extremists) about who’s more paleo. I wish they would realize they are only causing the movement to lose credibility and scaring people away. Apparently they need a reminder that they had a different life before paleo and to rememeber how they got here in the first place. Thank you for writing this! You hit it dead on!

  • Katie

    I kind of love you guys for this. I struggle with even saying that how I eat is “paleo” because I do not and never will fit into the uber-fit, child free, Crossfit enthusiast mold that seems to be what 99% of the population think of as “paleo”. My husband and I both work full time and we have a 2 year old. I have a history of disordered eating and have struggled with obesity my entire adult life. I would be overjoyed to drop extra weight and be a size 6 rather than a 16. I don’t get enough exercise and when I do, it’s swimming or running (both of which are derided by paleo purists as “chronic cardio” even though they’re activities that I thoroughly enjoy). He indulges in far too much of the Standard American Diet, and our daughter is picky (what 2 year old isn’t?) and loves carbs and doesn’t like meat. So between all three of us it’s a constant battle, and when I can feed us healthy foods I consider it a “win” even if it’s not what the paleo purists think is ideal.

    A lot of paleo resources on the internet are simply not geared towards busy families trying to do the best they can in our modern society, with limited time and limited financial means. Many of the popular blogs make you feel like they’re perfect all the time (I seriously doubt it) and that if you can’t be perfect, there’s no point in trying, and I categorically reject that idea! Making even small changes can make a big difference. If I can get healthy meals on the table 6 days a week, and we go out to eat on Saturdays and eat grains/dairy/whatever, it’s still better than if we’d had Hamburger Helper or frozen pizzas every night.

    If asked, I say that our family avoids/limits processed foods and that we cook whole, fresh foods as much as we can. I find it so refreshing that there are others who feel the same way, who are honest about the challenges experienced with this way of eating, and who are honest about not always being perfect.

  • Emily

    This post rocks. Keep up the GOOD WORK, you two are empowering parents like me and showing us that it’s possible. If I hadn’t found your blog, where Paleo know-how meets American-family-reality, I would have given up long ago. Since going Paleo in January my husband has lost 40 pounds (all his “extra weight!”) and I’ve been able to continue breastfeeding through active ulcerative colitis since my baby was born last August. She’s now almost 13-months old, brilliant and so strong! Thank you for deciding your journey was worth sharing, and for standing up against the negativity. Here’s to keeping the main thing the main thing, and staying out of pointless legalistic debates. Onward we go!

  • Kristie

    I appreciate what your family has done to help me move our family over to a paleo diet. I have four kids who are 10, 8, 5, and 1. There is no way I would be able to keep my kids on board with packing lunches for school without including some fun foods. They would just get a hot lunch that day. Having healthy alternatives for treats and snacks is essential to keeping them excited and open to eating differently from the other kids. And, since I am not a perfect person with amazing willpower, I like to make treats for myself to keep me from falling completely off the wagon. There are always going to be mean, ignorant people who say judgmental things without having any idea of what your life is like. Most paleo perfectionists are probably single, with no kids and don’t have to cook for an entire family. Keep up the good work. If people don’t like what you have to say, then they don’t have to read it. Just know that there are people and families out there who are just like you and appreciate having someone speak to their situation. If the goal is to help real people make healthy changes while living in the real world, then you are doing a great job.

  • I knew going grain and sugar free was the right thing to do and doing a Whole 30 did wonders for my health, healing a leg injury that just wouldn’t get better. But I’ve been hesitant to adopt the term Paleo, something about it just didn’t sit right with me. I wasn’t sure exactly why until I read this post. Thanks so much for this.

  • AMEN. I’m sure everything I want to say has already been said, but I just have to thank you guys for using your platform (blog) to tell what it’s like for all of us real people in the real world making this real food thing work in our own lives. I am so appreciative of all the work you do not only for your blog, but also speaking up and really using your voice in the paleo community! Just know that I think you all are awesome, I heart your blog so much, and am so grateful to see real people doing this just like I am!


  • Heather

    I love your blog and all of your recipes. My children love your book and enjoy it all too. Thank you for all of your hard work!

  • Kris

    I think the problem actually goes a bit deeper. I’ve been concerned about rigid eating by folks in the paleo blogging world even since I found out about paleo 2 years ago. I worry that paleo attracts a subset of people who already suffer from disordered eating and they just bring that burden into the paleo world. “Orthorexia” is the word that comes to mind. So, while some of what you refer to may be true drama-rama, I worry that overly strict folks are actually dealing with some sort of problem in their relationship to food and then spreading it out there like it’s the gospel truth that must be obeyed. The net-net? Keep talking about this, please!

    • Stacey

      I couldn’t agree more and have had some of the same concerns. I follow a paleo diet myself (my own version, what works for me and makes me happy) I see a lot of people who are paleo, read a lot of blogs and comments from people on those blogs and I’m always thinking, this sounds like an eating disorder! I’ve suffered from some disordered/obsessive eating myself and at times the pressure to stay “perfect paleo” has overwhelmed me. After backing away from eating paleo for a while, I’ve come back to it and created my own version of it, what works for me and and doesn’t make me feel out of control.

  • Laura

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I love this post and it is spot on. Thank you for standing up and saying that paleo is not just for crossfitting beauty queens/kings. I do agree with the commenter who said that part of the perfectionism is probably related to a subgroup of people who already have issues with disordered eating. I’ve definitely noticed that the sort of manic control that is exhibited by paleo perfectionists has more to do with their own need to be the “best at eating clean” than everyone else.

    Anyway, I’ve been reading for some time and this may be my first actual comment. You guys are amazing.

  • I think I have a blog crush on you two. Every post or podcast has me saying “Heck yeah!” in my head. 🙂 I love how you take the intent of paleo and make it work in real life, without judgement.

    I agree there is a very vocal minority online who can make it very uncomfortable to admit to being paleo. It’s tempting to distance myself and fall back on my original diet description “I eat meat and green vegetables” but I can see how that doesn’t really help improve people’s perception of paleo and encourage them to learn what it is really all about.

    Thanks for being a helpful voice of reason in a sea of drama!

  • Thanks for the great post, guys. I agree that rather than abandoning the word “Paleo”, it’s up to each of us to be honest and positive examples to the community. This lifestyle is highly individualistic and food is a touchy subject, so I can see the conflict with “orthodoxy” in the diet. Besides, we’re still seeing trends in what constitutes the Paleo diet itself – including a more accepting view of previously-vilified foods like white rice (you know I had to slide that one in!) and some forms of dairy.

  • WONDERFUL post!

    I’m a big fan of reclaiming titles that have in the past taken on a bad reputation. Maybe it’s spite. I don’t know.

    They can’t be derogatory if you use them with love. 😉

  • Yeah, the whole scene sucks right now. I might feel more down about it if I hadn’t found a great group of folks (like you guys have) to share ideas, inspiration, and frustrations with. You gotta make all of this work for you. I believe the key to it is to actually DO it. Action, motion, living, breathing. Because then, when someone says something, it just pings a lot less because you’re too busy living this “Paleo,” “real food,” “real-life-before-everything-took-a-left-turn-for-the-worse.”
    But I have to say…after going through these comments, I wonder when everyone is going to stop complaining about not seeing others like themselves in “Paleo” and realize that wonderful, intelligent, interesting people are all around. Sure, if I were a menopausal woman, I might be dismayed. But there are others out there. How do I know? Because they complain about it too! 😉 If there’s a gap and you’re interested in what’s in that gap, then I say quit bitching and dive in! If you build it, they will come.
    But the flip-side of that point is that as soon as we stop seeing barriers, they will disappear. 🙂 We are all sharing this “Paleo” or what-have-you. We are all humans, chances are we’ve all suffered in ways that we’ve all suffered, and we can share and be helpful, or we can find ourselves alone because we’ve pushed everyone away.
    So thank you for this post. And keep on keeping on.

  • suzie_q75

    Great post. Thank You! While I follow Paleo generally, I avoid fanaticism in anything. I am not interested in judging anyone for what they eat, and after all we do not live in the Paleolithic Era, so come on people get a grip! Keep on keepin it real, Paleo Parents!

  • Christina

    I just wanted to thank you guys for keeping it so real. We have 4 kids ages 15-6 and you have been such a help to us as we begin this journey. We’re about 3 months in, and I almost cried the other night when my picky 6-year old ate 2 servings of cabbage at dinner. You guys are a real family with a lot of the same issues we have, and you are such an inspiration! I have noticed some of the snarkiness from other blog sites, and I try to just take the things I can use and leave the other stuff. I do think that there’s a certain age group of Gen-Xers who are especially prone to sarcasm. I keep coming back over and over to your blog though, its been a tremendous help to us.

  • Emily

    I love you guys. I’m sitting here eating Paleo granola (because I ate my totally Paleo supper and am still hungry!) and feeling guilty…until I finished the post. I am healthy, my family is healthy, we are eating whole foods, and nobody should make us feel guilty!

  • Beth

    I have been stewing on this for a day or so now, and while I do subscribe to the “paleo” ish way of eating mostly, why does this, or anything really, need a label? Eat real food. Move your body. Don’t eat or do what makes you feel like shit. Get education about why certain things make you feel like shit. Repeat: don’t eat or do those things. Eat more real food. Move some more. Lather, rinse, repeat.

  • lhmaxwell

    I do think it is unfortunate that one of the items that you referenced in your piece was taken out of context (SWYPO is in reference to the Whole30) however your post is relevant to many of the issues that exist in the “paleo” community. I’ve stopped explaining myself; how I chose to eat is just that, my choice.

  • What an awesome post! I agree with you 100%. We should all be supportive of anyone who is taking measures to improve their health. I sometimes struggle with using the label “Paleo” because I feel some people think of it as another fad diet, but to me it just means eating whole, fresh foods that are supportive of health and do not promote dis-ease. We can all take as many steps as possible to reaching that goal and that is what is important. Being aware of the face that what you eat can have a huge impact on your health and putting that knowledge into practice is what matters – not how “Paleo” your ground beef or your dark chocolate are. 🙂

  • Kathleen Gillies

    BTW, I forgot to add in my lengthy post that I really like your book. Thanks for writing it.

  • NJ Paleo

    Thank you so much for this post! I’m fairly new to the paleo/primal movement (started researching in February, made the leap in March). As everyone knows, switching from SAD to eating non-processed foods all the time is tough — especially in public with friends, relatives, at parties, etc. It can be done, but not without some sort of explanation. Plus, I have a family that I am trying to gently transition as well. So being a dogmatic zealot 100% of the time just doesn’t work for me. And I find that I gravitate to the websites that are more “real”, that acknowledge that you just try to do the best you can, and be uplifting to others who are going through the same things. It’s a journey, we do the best we can! Thank you for your real-world stance. Every “movement” will have its vocal yet well-meaning (generally) extremists. And good for them for being able to be “perfect” all the time — but we shouldn’t feel bad for our own struggles. The struggle makes us stronger.

  • Vicky

    You’re awesome! I totally agree with this post!

  • Sandi

    Good for you! I think people do this becasue it becomes their god and identity versus a means to health and a full life. know what I mean? What if they gained a pound or ate an oreo the world would not come unglued.
    I have been Paleo (w/wiggle room) for 9 months and it has changed my life! I turned around a syndrome and went off medication all by eating this way and am now working toward my Black belt. 48lbs lighter, tons more energy, inflammation gone in my hands and zero mood swings later……you couldn’t make me not see myself as not Paleo. I even ate a grain free cookie today….gasp!

    • Sandi

      I meant to say (in my haste) “you couldn’t make me not see myself as Paleo”

  • The fact that the lava fudge cupcakes we made from Eat Like a Dinosaur are some of the freaking most delicious things we ever, ever ate in our entire lives makes me more than glad to be a Paleo Parent, myself. And your chicken nuggets. CRAZY GOOD. I don’t care if they were originally substitutes, they’re the real deal for us. But last night we had a Little Caesar’s pizza. Yeah, there are always some who want to be Puritans and wreck it for all the rest of us and you are right! Let’s just own the word and keep it fun and happy, and hopefully the ones we love can join in and heal like we did, finding the parts that work for them. Thank you for your wonderful, yummy, happy work.

  • Monique M.

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! This is why you and The Paleo Mom are my favorite paleo bloggers.
    One blogger criticized me for daring to take something as un-paleo as digestive enzymes supplements. Another said I wasn’t really Paleo since non-Paleo foods make me sick leaving me no choice than to never cheat. That still makes me so mad! My less than stellar bill of health wasn’t welcome in the community. So now I mostly follow gluten-free and WAPF bloggers, even if I can’t make half their recipes.

  • Monique M.

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! This is why you and The Paleo Mom are my favorite paleo bloggers.
    One blogger criticized me for daring to take something as un-paleo as digestive enzymes supplements. Another said I wasn’t really Paleo since non-Paleo foods make me sick leaving me no choice than to never cheat. That still makes me so mad! My less than stellar bill of health wasn’t welcome in the community. So now I mostly follow gluten-free and WAPF bloggers, even if I can’t make half their recipes.

  • CindiKay

    Woo Hoo and THANK YOU! Not sure how I missed this post last month and it is PERFECT for me today. You are so right on the intention and continue to inspire the “rest of us” – keep up the awesome work.

  • I don’t blog about food at all because I don’t want to be attacked by zealots. A blogger posted a picture of a lettuce wrapped burger and mean girls attacked her and told her not to bother with paleo if she was going to make “candy cigarettes.” A sandwich was just too damn neolithic for these people. Rude! I’ve survived multiple eating disorders and I’m not willing to open my life up to mean girls.
    I have children to raise. There is a paradigm for food and meals. We write our own script for everyday meals, but I know that they expect cake on birthdays and treats at Thanksgiving. I’m not going to let someone tell me that trying to adapt my family’s established holiday traditions into a healthier version is a “candy cigarette” or sin. I’m not going to throw away tradition–I just want to make it better.

  • I love this post. I prefer to just tell people I eat real food.

  • Samantha Ryan


  • This was refreshing to read! A good reminder to not beat myself up for the days I’m not perfect or buy meat that’s not 100% grass fed! And to be careful what I communicate to people about the Paleo lifestyle.

  • jenjen

    I have simply decided to take the advice that what other people say/think about you is none of your business!

  • Fay

    HALLELUJAH! Seriously. I have been paleo-ing since July of last year, and I love it. But I have often rolled my eyes at righteous status updates from certain bigwigs in the paleo world. Thank you for being the voice of reason. Props.

  • Love this! Reposting on my blog Working Paleo. Community building is important. Acting like the popular kids in high school is immature and short sighted 🙂 Keep up the good work!

  • Melissa

    Talk to you at Paleo Fx talk to you about my students. You are doing a good thing! so glad you can see things for what they are and move on. I have 4 parents reading your pamphlet. We are making cookies this week in school from your cookbook. Thanks for all the great info.

  • Beth G.

    I think you see similar attitudes among vegetarians, but I think it is worse with them since there are a multitude of reasons people become vegetarian, including moral. Those how insist upon 100% strict all the time from everyone, and are the first to criticize those that are not, probably are the least strict of all of us. It also is a sign of some serious food [and control] issues. It is unrealistic to be 100% strict all the time, and it leads to binging when you do fall off the wagon. In fact, what I really like about paleo is the near universal acceptance of 80/20, or guiltfree cheating, with the recognition that you will get back to your healthy paleo eating at the next meal. It is also a much healthier way of eating to teach our children.

  • Debi Reese

    Please, NEVER change!! I’m using you and your page to help change my brother, his wife and their son to Paleo… if not for you, who would be the “role model” for me to hold up? (I didn’t “go Paleo” until after my children were grown and gone… wish I had you as role models back then as my boys had a host of issues, the worst being ADHD and impaired growth).

  • crossing bridges

    I love this post. Great write up. I organise Paleo retreats in Thailand and it is a bit intimidating when you think that customers will expect a lean cut, no fat, xfitting highly disciplined Paleo cave girl, as are most of the more successful recipe book authors. There are all kinds of body types that react to the diet differently.My husband always loses more weight on a whole30, even though we eat the same – and I do all the cooking! If you want to check out our retreats, take a look at my website. http://www.crossing-bridges.com.au/

  • JoCaryn

    I love you guys! I was able to transition my kids to paleo with Eat Like A Dinosaur! Thank you for all that you do and thank you for this post!!! ❤️❤️❤️

    • Awww, thank you for reaching out and for the kind words!! We are so happy to hear that we could help you and your family!!

  • TimsArmyWifey

    Fantastic post!