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TPV Podcast, Episode 257: Live Show Part 3: Not-So-Rapid Fire

Ep. 257: Live Show Part 3: Not-So-Rapid Fire

 

In this episode, it’s the third and final part of our LIVE show! We go rapid fire with the questions, but still long winded with the answers!

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The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 257: Live Show Part 3: Not-So-Rapid Fire

  • Intro (0:00)
  • Welcome to the live show, this is Part 3 of our show! Listen to Part 2 of the live show here and Part 1 of the live show here!
  • Question 1: Christine asks, how do you find out which vitamin and mineral defficiencies are associated with your autoimmune disease?
    • Sarah: Some studies have shown deficiencies, others have just shown improvements with supplementation, but not very many of these studies group autoimmune diseases and study deficiency differences across all of them
    • Right now, there are incomplete data showing which is most important
    • “Frequent flyers” are Vitamin A, Vitamin D, Zinc and Omega-3 Fats.
      • You can also look at what the immune system uses, Vitamin A and D and Zinc are key for regulatory actions
      • The immune system’s proteins need methylation, so B6, B9, B12 are key for that as are Vitamin C and E as antioxidants
      • Iron, Copper, Magnesium (maybe more minerals)
      • All these have key role in the immune system, so it’s unsurprising that these deficiencies are linked with diseases
  • Question 2: If my children (an older daughter and a baby son) never try gluten and dairy, how will I know if they have an intolerance or Celiac Disease?
    • Stacy: we decided to just assume that our kids have it, given our family history, and to not test
    • If it’s important for you to test Celiac, you’ll have to expose your kids
    • Sarah: chances are very good that your daughter (who was never exposed) will rebel and eat some gluten eventually, and it’s ok to wait for that challenge
    • Stacy: reminder that some people can have issues with gluten and no physical symptoms. Stacy and Cole just get emotional and depressed when they’re reacting
    • They can’t tell you to fix anything if you DO get a positive result—you just have to avoid it anyway.
    • Sarah: research shows there’s a lower risk of Celiac if gluten is introduced while breastfeeding, and the longer you breastfeed the lower the risk, so introducing to a baby is more backed by research
    • In the same situation, Sarah would probably include a little wheat a couple of times toward the end of breastfeeding (around 2 years) so they can communicate whether something is wrong
    • In peanut allergy studies, babies were fed a very small amount to help reduce allergies, so it doesn’t have to be a huge serving
  • Question 3: Jessica’s son did the cheek swab DNA test, with her second child she’s just said “we have Celiac.” Is the DNA test helpful?
    • Sarah: studies of people with Celiac susceptibility genes, HLADQ2 and HLADQ8, have shown that people without Celiac who also have digestive symptoms still have a zonulin response to gluten. They’re still getting a leaky gut in response to gluten, even though it’s not Celiac
    • 60% of the population has one or both of these genes, which explains non-Celiac gluten sensitivity
    • Having one of those risk genes is a compelling argument not to mess with Gluten, because of the risk of a leaky gut reaction
  • Question 4: The Dr. from the Gluten Free Society’s website claims there are two other genes associated with Gluten sensitivity, HLADQ1 and HLADQ3, which no standard Celiac test looks for. Any other research on this?
    • Sarah hasn’t seen anything on that, but she’s never specifically looked through the research for that
    • 3% of Celiacs don’t have HLADQ2 or HLADQ8, that 3% could have that other selection of genes
    • Already more than a dozen HLA variants linked with autoimmune diseases
  • Question 5: Can Sarah share her Paleo road trip snacks?
    • She didn’t try to eat on the road, she packed picnic lunches
      • Grassfed organic all-beef hot dogs from Wal-Mart! On sale for $3.50/lb
      • Sarah had some canned salmon mix for herself
      • Her husband had leftover cooked salmon
      • They had a huge baggie of carrots, celery, and cucumber, apples
      • Boulder Canyon Avocado Oil potato chips
      • EPIC Snack Strips
      • Rice crackers for snacks
      • Paleo Angel Power Balls
      • Some 85% chocolate (which they didn’t open, but had just in case)
      • Water to drink
      • Sarah made a stew for dinner, which she heated up with a hot plate warmer thing
    • Stacy
      • Her family has done grocery store rotisserie chickens or chicken strips from Trader Joe’s, because they’re easy to pull apart and share
    • Sarah
      • On the way back, they’ll probably try to find a burger place
      • Hard to find grass-fed, but places that clean the grill, lettuce wrap or do gluten free buns would be ideal
      • Overall, she has a cooler in the back and a snack bag between the kids
      • It’s the same snacks they use at home, but she always makes sure to include protein, like EPIC Strips
      • She always includes raw veggies, fruit and something sweet, like Power Balls
      • When everybody’s miserable having a treat is really helpful for mood
      • Sarah’s oldest loves Cliff Kit’s Organic Bars and her youngest loves raisins
    • Stacy
  • Question: Do either Sarah or Stacy use a water filter, and which one?
    • Matt:
      • tap water is one of the greatest inventions of mankind.
      • The fact that we have potable water delivered to our house for cheap, any time we want, is great.
      • It goes through so much processing to get to potability in our houses that he really feels like honoring tap water by drinking it
    • Sarah
      • She agrees, but a lot of the members of her family have chloramine sensitivity (her brother missed a year of school due to this sensitivity) so Sarah has always used at least a Brita filter
      • Her municipal water is Dasani so that’s basically what they’re drinking if they use a charcoal filter
      • Sarah recently won a reverse-osmosis filter, but she feels like she has to add back in so many minerals to make it a helpful source of minerals
      • Sarah thinks we should remineralize our tap water – she uses Trace Minerals and EM Drops
      • Mostly adding Magnesium, Calcium, Potassium and some trace minerals. Most people (yes even Paleo peeps) are mineral deficient
      • She’s adding probably up to 20% of her family’s RDA to their water
      • Reminder: Sarah comes from socialist Canada and sort of automatically trusts the government, but recognizes that doesn’t necessarily reflect the American experience
      • Pay attention to stuff, there’s plenty of contaminated water out there, so you might want to make sure your municipal water is safe
      • BUT she thinks tap water is fine
    • Matt
      • When he was growing up in Mass., well water is pretty hit-or-miss, so his dentist prescribed fluoride to everyone
      • He and his brother (who did not have well water) had stained teeth from too much fluoride
      • So, it’s just a matter of knowing what’s in your water
    • Sarah
      • There’s not a lot of evidence that fluoride is causing health problems, but also little evidence it’s helping dental health
      • Fluoridated toothpaste, on the other hand, has some really compelling science backing its efficacy
      • There’s some science to show that fluoride might sequester in the pineal gland and over 60, 70, 80 years decrease the amount of melatonin secreted by that gland, linked with sleep disturbances in the elderly, but that’s sort of a big leap at this point
      • But you can take that out with a normal carbon filter if you are concerned
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  • Outro (33:00)

 

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  • Luc

    I’m interested in the ideas around fluoride. I live in Australia, which generally has good safe water. Almost every state has fluoride added. The only state that did not was Queensland (where I live) and they had higher rates of dental decay compared to other states. Fluoride was introduced across QLD, and tooth decay in young children fell by around 20% in just a few years. Since then, some councils have moved away from fluoride, and tooth decay in children is higher in those regions than in south east QLD where fluoride remains
    I think Australia adds lower doses of fluoride than in the US, as the generally warm climate allows for a lower dose, so perhaps there are issues with dose, too.